File Transfer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.miscSubject: Re: File Transfer - Beige G3 to new G4
From: KYeoh@MaC.Com.SpAmMeN.oT (Kwan Yeoh)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:55:49 +1000
Message-id: <1etyp36.3355qd1o8k9aaN@sdcax48-131.dialup.optusnet.com.au>
Jerry Stratton <newsw@hoboes.com> wrote:
> In article <3B0D087B.2E60BEDC@mitre.org>,
> "John A. Swartz" <jswartz@mitre.org> wrote:
>
> >I'm currently using a Beige G3 at work, but it will be replaced this
> >summer by one of the new G4 machines. I have a few GB that I would like
> >to transfer to the new machine. I originally was going to use my Jaz
> >drive, but that would require a SCIS-to-Firewire converter. I assume
> >that it would be simpler (and cheaper) to network the 2 machines
> >together and transfer that way - can I use a regular Ethernet cable?
> >Should I be considering a different option? Suggestions would be
> >greatly appreciated.
>
> If you are on a network and will be plugging both computers into a
> network, then a regular Ethernet cable is fine. I suspect from your
> question, though, that you mean plugging them directly into each other.
> For that, you need a "crossover" or "gaming" cable.
Some of the new Macs don't require this crossover cabling. They can recognise standard cabling when used in this situation. Unfortunately, I can't recall which of the new Macs this applies to.
Kwan.
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From: "Bryan Forrest" <bcforrest@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:03:51 GMT
> Some of the new Macs don't require this crossover cabling. They can
> recognise standard cabling when used in this situation. Unfortunately, I
> can't recall which of the new Macs this applies to.
>
> Kwan.
This only applies to the G4 towers with Gigabit ethernet adapters. They have the ability to autonegotiate data using a standard ethernet cable, but only if you are connecting two Gigabit G4s together. Otherwise, get a crossover cable. Less than $15 at Circuit City.
Bryan
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From: hbelkins@restrictorplates.mis.net (Elkins, H.B.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: File Transfer - Beige G3 to new G4
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:10:09 GMT
Message-id: <3b0e836b.14394067@news.newsguy.com>
Jerry Stratton <newsw@hoboes.com> wrote:
>Anyway, yes, I'd say ethernetting them together is probably the easiest
>way of doing it. You could always just pop the G3 hard drive into the G4
>temporarily, but that you're asking the question indicates you probably
>don't want to do that :*)
When I replaced my aging 6500 with a new CD-RW G4, I removed the hard drive (a replacement 20 gig Maxtor) from the 6500 and installed it in the G4. I then copied over all the files I wanted on the G4. Even for a non-technical person and a non-mechanically-minded person like me, it was a snap.
If you don't want to do that, then an AppleTalk connection via a crossover cable, as others have suggested, is the way to go. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ H.B. Elkins mailto:hbelkins@mis.net or mailto:HBE1@aol.com http://www.millenniumhwy.net http://www.users.mis.net/~hbelkins
Cable Modem Sharing
From: David Yeh <dly8b@Virginia.EDU>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: cable modem sharing
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:24:18 GMT
Message-id: <9fjim2$kph$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Hi-- I'm planning on getting cable modem and sharing internet access between two machines, a Mac and a PC. I've read up on how to do it and I think I have the general idea, but I'm pretty new to networking so I just want to confirm things with those of ya'll with more experience before I go out and invest in hardware.
I'm in a fairly small apartment, and I think the best solution is a hardwired network through a router. So... by my calculations, I need a router (I'm looking at the SMC Barricade), ethernet cards on both machines, ethernet cables to both machines, and cable modem and ethernet connection, which the cable company will provide. Is that it? Can I assume that configuring the router and the machines for internet sharing is relatively straightforward? Any warnings?
A related question is the cable company itself-- will they make a connection to the router, or will they insist on making a connection to one or the other machine? If the latter (or alternatively, if I first get a connection to one machine to see how I like it, and proceed to setting up the local network a later time), is it a big deal to switch the incoming connection from one machine to the router? I.e., will the cable company need to know, do they need new hardware information to configure things on their end, will they need to come by, etc?
Thanks for any help, dave
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From: Stan Horwitz <stan@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: cable modem sharing
Date: 6 Jun 2001 20:27:38 GMT
Message-id: <9fm3nq$g89$1@cronkite.temple.edu>
David Yeh <dly8b@virginia.edu> wrote:
>
> A related question is the cable company itself-- will they make a
> connection to the router, or will they insist on making a connection to
> one or the other machine? If the latter (or alternatively, if I first get
> a connection to one machine to see how I like it, and proceed to setting
> up the local network a later time), is it a big deal to switch the
> incoming connection from one machine to the router? I.e., will the cable
> company need to know, do they need new hardware information to
> configure things on their end, will they need to come by, etc?
I suspect your cable modem provider will insist on connecting service to a specific system, not to your router. That's no big deal though. After things are set up and you verify that the computer that's used to set up the cable modem is operating correctly via the modem, just unplug the cable, plug it into the router and follow the directions that came with the router to get both systems to share your cable modem. The directions should be clear enough.
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From: David Yeh <dly8b@Virginia.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: cable modem sharing
Date: 6 Jun 2001 22:26:19 GMT
Message-id: <9fmamb$kue$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Thanks for all the replies. I think I feel pretty comfortable about this stuff now. A couple small questions:
1) I only need 1 IP address from the provider, right? I've heard stuff about being able to get multiple IP addresses, I assume that's for some other purpose...?
2) Ordinary cat5 patch cables will do? Don't need crossover or anything like that?
3) If I were to buy my own cable modem, are they platform-independent? Don't need to look for mac-specific stuff?
Thanks, dave
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From: "Wayne C. Morris" <nospam@this.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: cable modem sharing
Message-id: <nospam-F4E9EF.21430605062001@nw1nr.wp.wave.shaw.ca>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 02:43:10 GMT
In article <9fjim2$kph$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
David Yeh <dly8b@Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> Hi-- I'm planning on getting cable modem and sharing internet access
> between two machines, a Mac and a PC. I've read up on how to do it and I
> think I have the general idea ...
>
> I need a router ... , ethernet cards on both machines, ethernet
> cables to both machines, and cable modem and ethernet connection,
> which the cable company will provide. Is that it? Can I assume
> that configuring the router and the machines for internet sharing is
> relatively straightforward?
Yeah, it's fairly straightforward, if you can figure out the TCP/IP settings.
Before you buy two ethernet cards, find out whether the cable internet package includes one. They might include a card whether you want it or not.
> A related question is the cable company itself-- will they make a
> connection to the router, or will they insist on making a connection to
> one or the other machine?
The guys who install the cable modem might not know how to do much other than configure the TCP/IP settings in Windows and MacOS -- and maybe only Windows. They might not have the slightest idea how to deal with a router. (Hell, the guy who installed the cable modem at our office insisted that its power supply had to be plugged directly into the wall, not into a surge suppressor.)
So it'd be best to just pick one machine and have it hooked up to that. They confirm that the internet connection is working, they leave, and then you can hook up the router and try to get everything working through that.
They might register the ethernet card's MAC address, in which case you'll have to tell the router to 'clone' the MAC address of the computer that the cable modem was initially hooked up to.
Cable Modem Extension
From: beaucham@music.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp)Subject: Cable modem extension
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Message-id: <vigW6.9548$ki5.133229@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:37:47 GMT
As I mentioned previously, I am in the process of giving my wife my old 1999 iMac and buying a new machine, and I wanted to have both of us on the broadband cable (supplied by AT&T AtHome). After considering various options, I decided to hardwire from my cable modem plus hub in our finished basement to her office on the second floor. The cost of the contractor to do this turned out to be approximately $250. (Going wireless was pretty much precluded by the lack of an Airport solution for the old iMac.)
For $5/mo. she can have her own IP address. However, several people have advocated getting a router, which apparently will obviate the $5/mo. Two types that have been suggested are Linksys and Macsense. The former is available for $100 at our local Best Buy, and the later is listed in the MacZone catalog as the XRouter Pro cable/DSL router with 4-port 10/100 switch and Airport bracket for $150. Which is best for a strictly Mac setup? Not that I really understand why using a router is superior to just having a separate IP address in the first place.
Also, I don't understand how she can send/receive email with an independent email address if she doesn't have her own IP address. (Unless, of course, if we go with OS X systems which allow separate accounts on the same machine or LAN.)
Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu <-- preferred email address
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From: Stan Horwitz <stan@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Cable modem extension
Date: 16 Jun 2001 12:49:14 GMT
Message-id: <9gfkka$q4v$2@cronkite.temple.edu>
Keep in mind, that even with two IP addresses from your cable company, you will still need extra equipment, in that case, an ethernet hub. When you factor in the $5 a month cost of the extra IP address and the hub (maybe around $35), you'll get a lot more functionality with the router.
I have a Lynksys router. It works well for me. I have friends who have the Netgear router and they like that too. I have never tried all the available routers, nor has anyone else I met so my suggestion is to buy whichever router you can get for the least amount of money. Just make sure it says it can be set up via a web interface.
As far as email is concerned, unless you are running your own mail transport agents on your systems, which is highly doubtful, then it won't matter. You can just set up different identies either in your email software. Your cable modem service provider should offer you at least three or four different email addresses at no extra charge. See your provider's web site for details or call their tech support.
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From: "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Cable modem extension
Message-id: <wayne.morris-A53678.22181715062001@nw1nr.wp.wave.shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:18:16 GMT
There is no connection between your email address and your IP address. They're two completely different things, like your driver's licence and your car's licence. You could have a dozen email addresses, and access all of them from home, from work, from a friend's computer, etc.
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Subject: Re: Cable modem extension
From: Alan Somers <NsOoSmPeArMs@home.com.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Message-id: <150620012108574285%NsOoSmPeArMs@home.com.invalid>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:09:00 GMT
If you can get two IP addresses on the same subnet, two IP addresses will work fine. In that case, though, anything sent between your computers can also be seen by any other machine on your cable company node. However, as was the case when I tried the two IP address approach, if you cannot get them on the same subnet and you're running a MacOS less than X, you either need a hardware router or routing software so that communications can go between your two computers without having to travel upstream to the cable ISP's router (at 128 kbps in my case) and then back down. At the time I was setting up my home network, the hardware solution and the software solution were about the same price, so it made more sense to me to opt for the added security of a hardware router.
> Also, I don't understand how she can send/receive email with an
> independent email address if she doesn't have her own IP address.
> (Unless, of course, if we go with OS X systems which allow separate
> accounts on the same machine or LAN.)
Unless you're hosting your own mail server, you have to request your mail as a client to a POP or IMAP mail server. The IP masquerading provided by the router works great for that.
-- Spam countermeasures are in effect. Please remove ".invalid" and the capital letters "NOSPAM" from my address when e-mailing me.
Airport
From: "Meat Sauce" <yernospam@no.com>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Another Airport question
Message-id: <uNJ%6.20230$ih.4018219@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 18:15:54 GMT
Sorry if this has been asked before (flame me if you will) but my parents are finally getting broadband (for a PC Laptop and a G4 Cube.) I am setting them up with a D-Link router/firewall/ICS and was wondering if the 802.11b included in this setup would be compatible with the Airport card that we would put in the Cube. Do any of you know if it would matter if two comps were hooked up in this way? The laptop will have a PC card wireless adapter in it too. Thanks for your help in advance.
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From: "Howard McCollister" <hmac@emily.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Another Airport question
Date: 1 Jul 2001 19:09:07 -0500
Message-id: <3b3fbb07$0$59754$45beb828@newscene.com>
I am using a couple of Dell PC laptops (Windows 2000) with WaveLAN cards on our home Airport equipped network. Works great. I don't know about Windows 98, though. Windows 2000 automatically installed the necessary drivers and enabled the network without me having to do anything more than popping the WaveLAN card in the PC slot. I don't know if other versions of Windows would do that as easily.
H McCollister
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From: Steve Fenwick <abuse@w0x0f.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Another Airport question
Date: 01 Jul 2001 18:44:46 GMT
Message-id: <abuse-2F02F5.11441601072001@nntp.concentric.net>
AirPort (which is what the Cube uses) is 802.11b compatible, so you should be okay.
Steve
--
Steve Fenwick abuse@w0x0f.com
Birds Immitating Modem
From: Lambert Dickmeis <lambertd@mac.com>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:13:21 +0200
Message-id: <lambertd-3F7D00.13132107082001@news.t-online.com>
Uh,
sorry if this is slightly OT but I'd like to give a bird as a present to a friend and I like the idea of one that's able to learn & imitate the sound of a connecting modem.
-- Lambert Dickmeis <lambertd@mac.com>
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From: "Feather Collector" <parrots@nbnet.nb.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <NDVb7.1753$TQ6.301076@news-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:33:33 GMT
I've seen diamond doves and they sound like littles faxes or modems.
-- Angela
Visit the birds! Visit the Hamster! Sign the guestbooks! They'd love to hear from YOU! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=50190
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Message-id: <3B73CE04.95794062@chello.se>
From: Joakim Wendel <j.wendel@chello.se>
Reply-To: j.wendel@SPAMchello.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:09:00 GMT
I tried both a Beo and a Norwegian Blue for my robotics 56k modem but alas everything else gets imitated but the modembeeps - so i ended up asking my girlfriend (who is a very talented whistler, noisemaker) to for a small fee make the noises on command ! Benefit is you can decide when to trigger the 'modem' Disadvantage is friends think it's more weird than funny.
semisinc. Joakim
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Joakim Wendel Remove obvious spam-block to reply My sort of homepage : http://members01.chello.se/j.wendel
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From: "Rita" <rekyle@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <1aVb7.39119$Kd7.24108301@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:01:49 GMT
My dusky-headed conure imitates the microwave, our security chime and the oven's timer, to just name a few of the sounds he makes (he also quacks like duck).
Rita
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From: "Wheeler" <rivercst@pacifier.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:01:24 -0700
Message-id: <3b701102_2@news.nwlink.com>
Norwegian Blue, black crowned of course.
Bob W
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We have a couple of web sites, check them out have fun, http://www.onemorebird.com/ http://home.pacifier.com/~rivercst/index.html
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From: "Palehorse" <curtis234@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <UV1c7.42024$k7.10108380@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:59:00 GMT
Oh yes, Beautiful bird the Norwegian blue, Beautiful plumage.
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From: Pete Ware <pware@mac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
You best bet would be an African Gray Parrot. Quick learners - they'll be imitating the microwave beeps in no time too! The only problem is they are expensive.
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Pete Ware Thomasburg Ontario
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Reply-To: "oldmolly" <oldmollyYOURTEETH@ntlworld.com>
From: "oldmolly" <oldmolly@YOURTEETH@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <ChZb7.24284$hs5.3853171@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:45:17 +0100
I beg to differ wheeler. I think the red fronted norwegian blue does better modem sounds.
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remove your teeth to reply Wheeler
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Message-id: <3B7062C5.ECCEEE2B@ns.sympatico.ca>
From: Jerome Murrin <jmurrin@ns.sympatico.ca> Reply-To: jmurrin@ns.sympatico.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:51:33 GMT
Of course, Norwegian Blues are very picky eaters, with only a few actually seen to be eating, although these reports came from somewhat unreliable sources after multiple pan-galactic gargle blasters and a few ginnantonix.
Jerome the bartender and boy, is my bar tender!
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From: Louis Boyd <boyd@apt0.sao.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:35:40 +0000
Message-id: <3B6FEEAC.B4B6DE11@apt0.sao.arizona.edu>
That's a terrible reason to give someone a bird. In fact giving birds as "surprise" gifts at all is a terrible idea. Owning a bird is a major committment. It's about as bad of idea as giving a friend a child and then skipping town.
As far as being able to immitate mechanical or electronic sounds an African Grey is quite capable of making the sound but is likely not to choose to cooperate.
--
Lou Boyd
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From: <ptg701@pacbell.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Date: 7 Aug 2001 11:34:27 -0500
Message-id: <070820010931306671%ptg701@pacbell.net>
I don't know what kind he is, but there's a bird who lives in the tree outside my bedroom window who loves to imitate car alarms and he does it all night.
I'm sure he could do a modem if he wanted to. I wish you could catch him and give him to your friend.
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From: SD <sd@_.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <sd-2B666C.23384307082001@fridge.shore.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:38:47 -0400
Northern Mockingbird!
They sing at night during the summer and imitate a large number of sounds. I've also heard them imitate car alarms as well as other birds and bullfrogs. It's pretty amazing to listen to them sing 10 or so different sounds, one immediately after another for about 5-10 seconds for each song.
SD
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From: Phyllis Evans <pmevans@twmi.rr.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What kind of bird is best at imitating modem sound?
Message-id: <pmevans-5A469B.09385407082001@clmboh1-nws2.columbus.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:39:05 GMT
AFAIK, either a Mynah or an African Grey Parrot would be best. They are the best talkers of the bird world. Once owned a miniature parrot that learned to bark and howl like a Basset Hound. Gave him to some people who had a landlord who hated dogs but said they could have a bird.
Replace Internal Modem for Beige
From: fakename@peak.org (fakename@peak.org)Subject: G3 internal modem bad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 2003-02-01 10:49:16 PST
The internal modem in my G3 minitower (OS 9) is blown, and I need to replace its function: (1) without having the machine out of service for more than a few hrs (2) without using the existing serial port (in use) This machine has no USB or firewire ports, and no spare serial ports for an external modem. I had hoped to install a PCI modem card, but the common wisdom appears to be that this will *not* work in the G3 due to a total absence of Mac drivers. Is it true that no PCI modem is known to work in a G3? The next-best alternative that I've come up with (short of hot-swapping computers, which has its own problems) is to install a Keyspan serial-port board, and run an external modem from that. ** Are there any "gotcha"s to worry about with this solution?
** Any suggestions for better suggestions? The computer is collecting data in a hard-to-reach location, with download and quality-checking via modem. I don't want it to be out of service for long, and it is quite far from the nearest Mac dealer. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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From: Joe Heimann (heimann@ecs.umass.edu) Message 3 in thread
Subject: Re: G3 internal modem bad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
If this was a B&W G3, then a replacement modem can be obtained relatively easily for about $25-35. For a Beige G3, that is not an cost effective option, the internal modem it relatively scarce and prices reflect that. The cheapest option for the Beige is probably adding an USB card and an external USB modem that work with the Mac OS. Adding serial ports and external serial modem will probably be more expensive.
No maker of PCI modems has done one with Mac drivers and if needed Mac firmware on the card. In addition, most PCI modems are WinModems with the actual processing being done in driver software running on the PC CPU.
As mentioned above, I think the USB solution would be less expensive. If you do decide to go with a serial card, MegaWolf is another maker besides Keyspan. I have not used either, so have no personal knowledge of which is better. One thing to check before writing off the existing modem, is that it and the audio or A/V card it plugs into are fully seated. Both have been known to work out of their sockets enough to not function. In any case, when this remote data collection Mac is running again, if it does not already have surge protection on both the power line and the telephone line, that should be put in place. Surges on the phone line is the most common killer of modems. Joe Heimann
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From: w_tom (w_tom1@hotmail.com) Message 4 in thread
Subject: Re: G3 internal modem bad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
It is classic urban myth to blame phone line for modem damage. Surges first must form a complete electric circuit. Only then does something in the circuit fail. Phone lines already have effective 'whole house' surge protectors installed free by the telco. Phone lines are rarely a source of surges. But the complete electric circuit is from cloud to wires above phone wires (AC electric), into building and still seeking earth ground. Once inside the building, a surge will find every path to earth. One excellent and destructive path is via computer and modem to earth ground via phone line. BTW, adjacent (plug-in) surge protector only makes damage to a powered off Mac easier. Just like a telco provided phone line protector, all other incoming utilities also must have a 'whole house' surge protector connected less than 10 feet to central earth ground. Surges must be dumped into earth before they can enter the building. For residential service, Home Depot sells two 'whole house' AC electric surge protectors - Intermatic EG240RC and Siemens QSA2020 - that cost about $1 per protected appliance. Compare that to maybe $30 per protected appliance for plug-in surge protectors that can even contribute to modem damage. Surges on every incoming utility (overhead and buried) must be earthed at the service entrance before they enter a building. A surge protector is only as effective as its earth ground - which is why 10 feet or less is so important and which is why ineffective plug-in surge protectors avoid all discussing about critical earthing.
Joe Heimann wrote:
> ...
> In any case, when this remote data collection Mac is running
> again, if it does not already have surge protection on both
> the power line and the telephone line, that should be put
> in place. Surges on the phone line is the most common killer
> of modems.
OS 9 Browsers
From: Gary L. DareSubject: Browsers for OS9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps </groups?hl=en&lr=&group=comp.sys.mac.apps>
Date: 2004-10-07 00:05:29 PST
I'm on a Beige G3 running OS9 (Classic) with the following browsers:
Netscape 7.0.2
Internet Explorer 5.1.7
Opera 6.0.3
Is that all there is, my friend? )-;
The last Mozilla for Classic, 1.2.1, seems older than Netscape 7.0.2 so that's out of the question.
As for IE, 5.2.3 for OS X seems to be their last Mac release.
What's worrisome is that a lot of sites (esp. banking and bill payment) are not working well on Netscape 7.0.2 any more, and I have had to move them to IE 5.1.7 in the past month.
gld
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From: Bunny
Subject: Re: Browsers for OS9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 2004-11-01 10:04:19 PST
I've used quite a few Classic browsers (mostly in OS 9.2). I spent most of this weekend updating Web pages, and checking them in various browsers.
Mozilla/Wamcom 1.3.1 is what I use most of the time (right now, for instance). It is fast and displays most pages successfully. However, it crashes too often, and has some other quirks. I had to reinstall it last month, after a month of use, because something became corrupted.
IE 5.0 is a bit slower (you said you were using 5.1, but the last OS 9 version is 5.0). I don't notice much difference in stability. In my experience, it is slightly less compatibile with "fancy" Web sites (i.e., pages with a combination of authentication procedures, frames, Javascript, forms, etc.)
Opera 5 is nice and lean, but is becoming increasingly incompatible with sites that require "fancy stuff" like registration. Opera 6 I've used a little. It has lost some of the leanness that made Opera 5 my favorite (a few years back), but is a bit more compatible with "fancy stuff" than Opera 5.
iCab would be my favorite browser if it were finished and delivered what it promises. It still has only minimal CSS support. The last few versions have only fixed bugs; there have been no new features for a long time. I'm beginning to think development has ground to a halt. That would be a pity.
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From: AES/newspost
Subject: Re: Browsers for OS9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 2004-11-01 13:50:02 PST
In article <a8696178.0411011004.151a1b0e@posting.google.com>,
bbunny@myrealbox.com (Bunny) wrote:
> I've used quite a few Classic browsers (mostly in OS 9.2). I spent
> most of this weekend updating Web pages, and checking them in various
> browsers.
You don't mention Netscape 7.02 . . . ? (Same as Mozilla?)
I've been using it for some time, no serious problems, though I've not done any comparisons with other browsers.
Miscellaneous
From: JSL <jslautner.at@mac.com>Subject: Re: Getting Rid of the #$@! Ad in Sherlock 2
Message-id: <jslautner.at-0CEACA.16074312042000@news.georgetown.edu>
There are hacks out there for this. Look for "Sherlock 2 no ads 9.0 patch" and/or "Sherlock 2 Mod Patch" and/or "Sherlock Ad Remover". I've patched my Sherlock 2 with all three, and I've got a brushed aluminum skin, no ads, and nothing but search functions.
Look on VT for them or something (http://www.versiontracker.com)
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Subject: Re: How efficacious is wireless networking?
From: Madwen madwen@mailbag.spammenot.com
Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2000 4:28 PM
Message-id: <madwen-A03BEE.17282624022000@news.binc.net>
In article <gozer-7D2307.06474624022000@supernews.intergate.ca>, Gordon Mulcaster <gozer@mac.com> wrote:
> With the hub you use normal cables and you will have spare ports to plug
> other equipment (printer, xDSL/cable modem) into.
>
> > Forgive me, I do not know what you mean by broadband.
>
> High speed 24/7 internet connection (xDSL/Cable/T1 etc.)
>
> > And finally, if you don't mind, I am a little confused about
> > the speeds that you mentioned. Are you saying that wireless ethernet
> > is
> > slower than wired? It is faster than localtalk, right?
>
> LocalTalk = 0.240 Mbps (or something like that)
> Ethernet (10 base-T/2) = 10 Mbps
> AirPort = 11 Mbps
> Ethernet (100 base-T) = 100 Mbps
> Gigabit Ethernet = 1,000 Mbps
Thanks much, Gordon, that's just the information I was looking for. :)
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From: historystamp@aol.com (Historystamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:35:36 GMT
Subject: Re: dial-up internet access question
Message-id: <20010613123536.26528.00000885@ng-xb1.aol.com>
I hate to say this, but it's likely to be a SOL situation.
Call your local phone company.
Phone lines are only guarenteed to work to 28,800. When phone lines get tight in an area, the phone company splits 56k lines into two voice grade lines of 28,800. This is good enough for voice. (In addition, the phone company will not be able to offer DSL on this lines.)
Also, 56k speed allows for only one A/D conversion by the telephone compnay. Two such conversions means no 56k download speed. I understand that the analog signal going out of your modem is eventually converted to digital and this digital signal goes directly to your ISP. Should there be another (D/A) A/D convertion before the signal gets to your ISP, the speed will be limitted to 28,800.
You may actually be better off living in an older area of town when it comes to getting 56k speed.
This is what I have gathered by from various readings. Hope this provides some insight until a more detailed post appears.
Robert
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Stephen <spasticateN0SP4M@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> Thelonious Pepper wrote:
> >Is there way to read newsgroups with an app on my Mac without a PPP
> >account? I know Eudora can be made dialup and work without PPP.
Yes, this is possible -- methods vary depending upon the exact
situation, but it'll probably be easiest to use MacSOUP and something
like uqwk.
--
JBM (that's me) thinks that Mark Twain said "The difference between the
right word and the almost right word is like the difference between
lightning and a lightning bug."?
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