Best Flight Simulator
Subject: Best Flight Simulator?Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 1996/12/01
Could anyone recommend an excellent Flight Simulator game,
as well as maybe the best type of joystick to buy?
Our system is Mac PPC.
Yes, Christmas shopping for someone special.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Many Thanks,
Dennis
jalfrank@tezcat.com
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From: Jackson Myers (catfish@vaxxine.com)
Subject: Re: Best Flight Simulator?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 1996/12/01
The BEST flightsim I have ever played on my Mac is Flight Unlimited. It
has AWSOME graphics, as well as a good flight model, and flight lessons.
This game deals with Aerobatics though, and there is no combat involved.
-Jax
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From: Ben Abler (babler@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu)
Subject: Re: Best Flight Simulator?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 1996/12/09
In a previous article, holzp@mail.geocities.com (holzp) says:
>FA18 Hornet 2.0, hands down the best.
I agree. Especially if you have a fast PowerMac! It's really great when
hooked up to external speakers or a stereo.
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From: Christian Franz (cfranz@access.ch)
Subject: Re: Best Flight Simulator?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 1996/12/05
Best flight model: A-10 (Cuba) (on-line f/s excluded)
Best non-military: Flight Unlimited
Flashiest Graphics: F/A-18
Best Helicopter: Apache
Best Mission Planning: Apache
Best Networking: Apache
Best Flight Teaching: Flight Unlimited
Best all-around flight-sim/game: A-10 Cuba
Best dogfight trainer: Dogfight City
WORST f/s: toss-up between Flying Nightmare and F117A.
All IMHO, of course.
Cheers,
Christian
Best Gaming Mouse
From: Colin Kirchner (colink@heakin.comSubject: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/11
Hello All,
I am looking for some advice as to which mouse would be best to use for gaming. I realize a Joystick would be better, but thatıs why I have a Choicestick adapter. Anyhow, I have limited my search down to the following mouses:
1. Kensington Thinking mouse (Are four buttons really useful? Can the buttons be programmed independently for different apps?) 2. Macally 2-button mouse (the price is right at under $30, Iım not sure of the quality) 3. Kensington track ball (Iıve heard track balls can be hard to get used to, and are painful on the wrists. Are there great benefits?)
If you have any experience with any of the above products please share your experience. BTW, I am looking for a mouse with at least two buttons so I can avoid option-clicks in such games as Command & Conquer, Warcraft, Diablo, Myth & others. I also use my Mac for basic word processing.
Again I would appreciate any suggestions about a good gaming mouse.
Remove Nospam from my email address when responding.
Thanks,
Colin Kirchner
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From: Corey Tamás (jwct@magma.ca)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
I'm replying from the perspective of a first-person-shooter fan... mainly Quake. I realize this may or may not be the top of your list as far as your favourite games go, but I thought I'd jot a few notes anyhow. Hope they're useful...
I have a thinking mouse, and I will never go back again. In games that require an Option-Click, your button is already set for it (if you so choose). The flexability of this mouse is terrific and it has improved my Quake game considerably. The four buttons are placed in such a way as to make them very intuitive and not at all complicated or cumbersome. For Warcraft, Myth, Diablo or Quake I would recommend this one.
> 3. Kensington track ball (Iıve heard track balls can be hard to get
> used to, and are painful on the wrists. Are there great benefits?)
For first person shooters such as Quake or Unreal, often I have heard that the trackball makes it very difficult to strafe around corners. I've never tried myself. My brother owns a trackball and is quite fond of how it works, but for Quake he reverts to a mouse.
Good luck! Corey
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From: Dohnut (see-below@not-my-address.invalid)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
Oh yeah, I've got to add to what I wrote previously: I can't even imagine using a 1-button mouse ever again, and I bet even a 2-button mouse would be frustrating for me, considering how helpful the buttons are. For instance, in the Finder I use one button (far left) for click, one (far right) for control-click (contextual menus), one (near left) for command-option-click (very handy for several functions!), one (near right) for application switching, and chording closes a window.
I have similar handy shortcuts for web browsers (ie, go back, stop, close window)
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From: Nick Urban (urbans@nospamearthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
I also use a Kensington Thinking Mouse and I sure do use every button. Click, Control-click, double-option-click, and enter for the finder for unreal fire, fire secondary, switch forward and switch backward. It is very handy. In Quake I only mainly use the front two buttons (unless I'm playing CTF and then a third button is used for grappling hook). This would be my first choice cause I find trackballs hard to use and joysticks are really only good for flight sims (which I play none of). My $0.02
-Nick Urban
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From: Sal Orlando (porieux@_N0-SpAM_sirius.com) Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse? Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/13
Here's another vote for the Kensington Thinking Mouse, it's awesome.
In addition to everything else mentioned, it also has a very good feel and is very comfortable to use.
-sal
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From: Sylvan Korvus (sylvan@nospam.home.com)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
>2. Macally 2-button mouse (the price is right at under $30, Iım not sure of the quality)
I bought this one 3 weeks ago, and am very pleased. While not anything earthshaking (it's comparable to most pc mice), it's comfortable to use and sensitive. The software is good, it was easy to set up a default value of ctrl-click for the right button to use it for contextual menus in the finder, and there's an input sprocket for it (still a developer version, but works great) on the macally site. Quake is great with it, i just can't make up my mind what function to map to the 2nd button :)
Like any mouse it picks up gunk on the rollers, I really should get one of those 3m mousing surfaces.
_________________________________________________
Sylvan Korvus ~ designer ~ sylvan@nospam.home.com
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From: Alex Thorpe (athorpe@i1.net)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
In article <36216FFA.8F963B79@heakin.com>, colink-nospam@heakin.com wrote:
>1. Kensington Thinking mouse (Are four buttons really useful? Can the
>buttons be programmed independently for different apps?)
I've got #1 right now, and use three of the buttons in Diablo and the Finder and use four in Unreal. Yes, you can set up different commands for each and every program if you wish.
My father has an old, two button Kensington Turbomouse(trackball) and it's perfect for Aperion and Avara. It's also better than a mouse for flight sims, if you lack a joystick.
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From: Dohnut (see-below@not-my-address.invalid)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
In article <36216FFA.8F963B79@heakin.com>, colink-nospam@heakin.com wrote:
> 1. Kensington Thinking mouse (Are four buttons really useful? Can the > buttons be programmed > independently for > different apps?)
Yes, I have one and it works great. For regular apps, you use the Kensington config application, but for most games you use the input sprocket for it. And yes, for many games (such as Quake or Unreal) the extra buttons are very helpful.
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From: Nick Urban (urbans@nospamearthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/12
Oh, you might want to check out the VOrb, too. There's a review at: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/games/VORB/index.html -Nick
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From: Ben Donovan (jonesey@earthling.net)
Subject: Re: Best Gaming Mouse?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action Date: 1998/10/15
I have just bought a macally 2-button model and i am very pleased. The software (a control panel and optional game sprocket, this is needed for quake etc.) is easy to use and i haven't experienced any problems. Unreal is great with it as the second button can be used as the alternate fire. A friend of mine has the kensington one, but for the amount of money that you save, i see no reason to buy the more expensive one.
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Video / OS X / OpenGL
From: Maarten (maarten@theadagency.nl)Subject: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-11-26 08:02:41 PST
Hi there,
I've got this anoying problem: I want to play 'Elite Force' on my G3
(beige) 233 desktop-model. But i can't get it started. I've got 224 mb
RAM, so that's sufficient. I think it has something to do with OpenGL,
cause a warning says the computer can't initialise OpenGL. I downloaded
and installed the lastest version op OpenGL from the Apple-site. It
still doesn't work. Other 3D-based games won't work either. Games like
Age of Empires work though. Does my computer miss something?
Hope someone can help me out...
Thanx,
Maarten (Holland)
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From: Kevin Jamieson (kevj@shaw.ca)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-11-26 10:57:45 PST
You might need to upgrade your video card. If you have an original (Rev. A)
beige G3, you have a Rage IIc card, which won't cut it. If you have a later
Rev. beige G3 you have a Rage Pro, which will work with OpenGL, however, you
will need to upgrade your VRAM from the standard 2 MB to 6 MB (roughly $20).
Even then performance on a Rage Pro will be pretty poor.
If I were you I'd just get a new video card. If you don't plan on using OS X
anytime soon I'd look for a Voodoo3. Otherwise, a Radeon PCI or VE is really
your only choice, unless you can find a Rage 128.
-kevin jamieson
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From: Brad Oliver (bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-11-26 11:15:02 PST
Yes, your video card isn't up to the task of supporting OpenGL-based 3D games. Drop in a 3rd party video card like a Radeon PCI and you should
be able to run them. However, your 233 G3 will probably have some
serious performance issues with the 3D games once you do that.
If you're serious about getting good gameplay out of a current 3D title,
consider buying a faster Mac, which should conveniently come with a
better 3D card as a consequence.
--
Brad Oliver
bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY
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From: DiCe (dice@dlc.fi)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-11-27 11:29:27 PST
> If you're serious about getting good gameplay out of a current 3D title
> consider buying a faster Mac, which should conveniently come with a
> better 3D card as a consequence.
With 400 MHz G3/G4 upgrade card, Voodoo3 and 256+ MB memory, Beige G3s are amazingly capable gaming machines. In addition all those upgrades are actually very cheap nowadays, something like 350 bucks all together. Switch Voodoo3 for more expensive Radeon if you plan using OS X with your machine.
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From: Brad Oliver (bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-11-27 12:34:09 PST
In article <3C03F7B4.4080209@dlc.fi>, DiCe <dice@dlc.fi> wrote:
> Switch Voodoo3 for more expensive Radeon if you plan using OS X with
> your machine.
The Voodoo cards are both end-of-life and have pretty funky OpenGL
driver issues that will almost certainly never be fixed (or worked
around in any shipping games). I would avoid them in favor of the Radeon PCI for that reason as well.
--
Brad Oliver
bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY
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From: Futurity (khoena@mpx.com.au)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-12-06 13:30:03 PST
In article <bradman-FB6EC6.14190227112001@news-server.austin.rr.com>,
Brad Oliver <bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY> wrote:
> The Voodoo cards are both end-of-life and have pretty funky OpenGL
> driver issues that will almost certainly never be fixed (or worked
> around in any shipping games). I would avoid them in favor of the
> Radeon PCI for that reason as well.
I'm using a PC Voodoo3 2000 under OSX.
I downloaded the beta13 drivers and used nDrvMan to extract some code
which I simply droped into the apropriate folder under OSX.
I do have a problem with games like RtCW, it seems the OpenGL code in
OSX doesn't recognise the card. However the card performs quite well
under OS9.2
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From: Magnus Helin (helin@mac.com)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-12-07 08:17:06 PST
in article 071220010826203148%khoena@mpx.com.au, Futurity at
khoena@mpx.com.au wrote on 01-12-06 22.26:
> I'm using a PC Voodoo3 2000 under OSX.
>
> I downloaded the beta13 drivers and used nDrvMan to extract some code
> which I simply droped into the apropriate folder under OSX.
Would you care to explain in more detail how you did this?
I have a Voodoo5 in a beige G3 and it is a pain in the ass to switching to
built-in Rage II whenever I want to boot X.
--
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"All your base are belong to us."
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From: Futurity (khoena@mpx.com.au)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-12-11 10:15:01 PST
In article <B836A9EA.4D82%helin@mac.com>, Magnus Helin <helin@mac.com>
wrote:
> Would you care to explain in more detail how you did this?
> I have a Voodoo5 in a beige G3 and it is a pain in the ass to switching to
> built-in Rage II whenever I want to boot X.
I got most of my info from "http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/"
Fantastic resource for us owners of older Macs. The site features
articles by people who have actually done the work and written step by
step guides for others. Covers all areas: Video, Overclocking, CPU
upgrades etc...
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From: Jan Pieter Kunst (devnull@cauce.org)
Subject: Re: OpenGL on G3 233-desktop (beige)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2001-12-08 01:49:02 PST
In article <a2dajNOSPAM-D32019.20374507122001@netnews.attbi.com>,
Avelino Santa Ana Jr. <a2dajNOSPAM@mac.com> wrote:
> The Voodoo3 isn't supported w/ OS X. There are no OS
> X drivers. You'll never be able to play OpenGL games in OS X using a
> Voodoo3. :( Unless somehow, some independant programmer was able > to come up with some drivers for it (highly unlikely).
For what it's worth...
<http://homepage.mac.com/krevinek/voodoox.html>
JP
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Sources of Old Games
From: John B (johnb1@powersurfr.com)Subject: Re: Wanted: Mac 68k commercial games and related info
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace, comp.sys.mac.games.action, comp.sys.mac.wanted
Date: 2002-02-23 20:05:11 PST
in article mr153-ya02408000R2302021848310001@news.earthlink.net, Galen West
at mr153@earthlink.net wrote on 02/23/02 19:48:
> hi. to find commercial forsale games:
>
> http://tufdaawg.tripod.com/index.htm
>
> galen
>
>
> In article <mdykim-CB79EC.06241223022002@news.charter.net>, Kim
> <mdykim@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Not what you are looking for exactly but my kids like to browse this
>> page:
>>
>> http://www.kidsdomain.com/down/mac/
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> In article <eric-1044DF.22421722022002@corp.supernews.com>, Eric
>> <eric@surfvh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's a good place to find 68k games? my favorite is:
>>>
>>> "Mac 68k Games - The Center for 680x40 Gaming"
>>> <http://home.hawaii.rr.com/m68kg/>
>>>
>>> They've even got a special section for netgames.
>>>
>>> Although the best way to actually buy old games is to hunt in various
>>> used mac stores(Check the backs of paper magazines like MacWorld, Mac
>>> Addict and Mac Home Journal), rummage through eBay, search on the web(I
>>> like MetaCrawler myselfS) and of course look through the
>>> comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace newsgroup. I did find a store that seems
>>> to have an unusually large number of them. called Gameporium.
>>>
>>> "Gameporium: Macintosh"
>>> <http://store.gameporium.com/mac.jsp>
>>>
>>> "MacWorld Magazine"
>>> <http://www.MacWorld.com>
>>>
>>> "Mac Addict Magazine"
>>> <http://www.MacAddict.com>
>>>
>>> "Find what you want - Ebay"
>>> <http://www.ebay.com.com>
>>>
>>> Have fun gaming!
>>>
>>> Eric,
snip
pardon me for buttin' in, but there's Underdogs' Mac orchard
http://mac.theunderdogs.org
There you can get Sensory Overload, Wolf 3d, Rise of the Dragon and a few
other older games and for free, even !
jb
Beige G3 Upgrades
From: George (george5071@my-deja.com)
Subject: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-12 17:51:21 PST
I came across a 300 MHz beige G3 and put a Radeon 7000 PCI card in it. I was thinking of adding a G3/G4 upgrade card. 2 questions: 1. for gaming I assume that there's no advantage in OS9 for a G4 vs a G3 card. For OSX, is there much advantage (if any) to a G4 upgrade card? 2. Seems like most of the upgrade cards are around 500 MHz. Any chance that a faster card is or will be available? thanks
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From: Jamal Bernhard (jamalb@nospam.pacbell.nospam.net)
Subject: Re: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-13 12:22:55 PST
With an old beige G3 you will be limited by the bus speed of the machine. Getting any upgrade more than 500mhz probably won't give much benefit as far as gaming goes. The G4 is definitely a better solution if you plan to run os X -- it runs much slower on a G3.
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From: Rainer Udelhoven (R.Udelhoven@t-online.de)
Subject: Re: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-14 02:16:03 PST
Apple seems to develop OS X along the G4's altivec engine (Finder eye candy and stuff), so your everyday computing and multimedia apps like iTunes, DVD player and such will benefit from a G4, which is nothing to scoff about. Just cramm as much RAM into it as possible. Games have to be optimized for G4s to take advantage from it. > 2. Seems like most of the upgrade cards are around 500 MHz.
Former upgradecard developer XLR8 (R.I.P.) stated that there's a catch with the motherboards of the B&W G3 preventing higher clock speed than about 500 MHz, probably the same is valid for beige G3s. I upped my 350 B&W G3 with a 500 MHz G4 upgrade plus DVDROM and am quite happy - all games up to the Quake III resp. UT engine run great and allow more details, but powerhoggers like Giants seem to be a bit out of limit - not to mention UT 2003 or anything along this. RPGs with the Baldurs Gate engine are much better - the little folks walk instead of crouch now:-D
Since you have a beige G3 with a slower bus (66 MHz vs. the B&W's 100), keep in mind the perfomance will be a slower.
Summa: You can make your beige G3 into a nimble to decent game machine, but this years topnotch game releases are out of reach. Further infos about upgraded Macs are to be found here <www.xlr8yourmac.com>
Rainer
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From: Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net)
Subject: Re: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-14 16:20:12 PST
I should list my experience there. I put a Sonnect 500MHz G4 ZIF upgrade into my rev.A "beige" system.
Works fine with their MacOS X tuner thing. It may work w/o that too, but you don't get all (any of?) the benefits of the G4 (cache) without it. It was fairly easy to install, but before you do this, check your power regulator card. See http://www.xlr8yourmac.com for details about this. Some of the rev.A machines had a power regulator which is incompatible with a G4 upgrade. You can get a replacement regulator if necessary. If you're not using a rev.A system, I don't know if it's an issue.
-- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship
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From: Rainer Udelhoven (R.Udelhoven@t-online.de)
Subject: Re: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-15 03:01:02 PST
Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> A machines had a power regulator which is incompatible
> with a G4 upgrade.
It's not mere 'incompatible', the whole motherboard ca get toasted. Isn'there's another issue with big HDs? You'll have to make a first partition of max. 8 GB where OS X has to be installed, or somweethng along that line...
Rainer
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From: Luigi Mattera (foo@bar.invalid)
Subject: Re: upgrade card(s) for a beige G3 for gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-20 20:30:53 PST
I thought I saw that someone had come out with an 800 Mhz G3 upgrade ($299) at Macworld. I thought the biggest problem facing the "Smurf" and "Beige" G3s was the lack of a multipler past 10x, limiting the CPU speed. If newer chips have higher multipliers, then you should be able to go past 500 Mhz. In any case, even with an 800 Mhz G3, the 32MB Radeon 7000 video card may very well be the last Mac PCI video card. (The original Radeon PCI card is faster than the 7000..)
Luigi
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Multiplayer Action Games
From: Mike Whooley (google@whooley.utvinternet.com)Subject: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-17 11:08:50 PST
Now that I finally have a Mac that's "reasonably" good for gaming (17" iMac), and a broadband connection (finally!) I'm trying to get back into network gaming. I used to play a lot of LAN games on various platforms, but only some internet games due to modem induced lag. (Bolo, X-pilot, Doom, Quake I and III; in that order :) Having had my fair share of abuse already ("Why haven't you [OBSCURE OPTION X] turned on??? This server sux. U Suk!" or "Why the f*ck didn't u protect the [APPARENTLY VALUABLE WIDGET Y]? Why did you not do that??" etc..), I'd like to get started again without having to endure earfuls of the same. Can anyone recommend Mac games with good netplay, ideally with easy to learn gametypes like CTF, and don't require weeks just to learn the de-facto rules ("if u kill me twice with the same weapon, i'll kick you, you [DEADIFYING WEAPON Z]-whore!!!" etc :). Any advice on servers also appreciated! Cheers! Mike.
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From: C Lund (christopher.lund@NOSPAMchello.no)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-17 13:38:56 PST
You might want to check out Return To Castle Wolfenstein. There should be a demo out there somewhere. IMHO, it's the best MP game out there. Giants is pretty good too, but it's rather quirky and not many people are paying it any more.
>Having had my fair share of abuse already ("Why haven't you [OBSCURE
>OPTION X] turned on??? This server sux. U Suk!" or "Why the f*ck
>didn't u protect the [APPARENTLY VALUABLE WIDGET Y]? Why did you not
>do that??" etc..), I'd like to get started again without having to
>endure earfuls of the same.
Sorry mate, no can do. If you play online you're garanteed to get more of same. The only advice I can give there is to try out many different servers and then take note of which ones are full of foul-mouthed whiners and which ones are not (which will be in the minority) - and then stick to the ones with adult players. As I always say: the worst part of multiplayer games are the other players. I guess that's why people stll play by LAN. ;)
>Can anyone recommend Mac games with good netplay, ideally with easy to
>learn gametypes like CTF,
Again I recommend Return To Castle Wolfenstein. Great solo game. Great multiplayer game. Simple rules. You might want to run through the network maps on your own before playing them with others, just to see where the objectives are.
> and don't require weeks just to learn the
>de-facto rules ("if u kill me twice with the same weapon, i'll kick
>you, you [DEADIFYING WEAPON Z]-whore!!!" etc :).
That's not a "de-facto rule". That's the whine of a teenybopper who got his derriere handed to him. Don't play on servers with hosts like that.
> Any advice on servers
>also appreciated!
If you're in western Europe I'd recommend blueyonder.
-- C Lund, Oslo http://www.notam02.no/~clund/
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From: C Lund (christopher.lund@NOSPAMchello.no)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 13:52:59 PST
>>If you're in western Europe I'd recommend blueyonder.
The server is now called "bygames", btw. That's what you need to look for. Unfortunately, their RTCW servers are almost always full. B(
-- C Lund, Oslo http://www.notam02.no/~clund/
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From: C Lund (christopher.lund@NOSPAMchello.no)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 15:40:37 PST
>BTW: because bygames is always crammed, I've been playing on another rather
>good server lately. I don't remember what it's called, but I'll post it if I
>remember to do so after this evening's session.
I found it: It's "G-Tap". (www.g-tap.org) They mostly play "forestbk" (or whatever it's called - it's a rework of the stealth level in the solo game). There was a whiner in there today, but the admins got fed up with him and kicked him. They seem tolderant of accidental tks though. I killed two teammates in a row and wasn't kicked and no complaints were filed. -- C Lund, Oslo http://www.notam02.no/~clund/
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From: Michael Hawelka (michael.hawelka@aon.at)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 15:51:02 PST
Rogue Spear works fine in multiplayer mode, and it´s fun for me. It even works crossplatform with WIN, if Urban Operations is installed, too. I´ve no experience playing it on public Servers (via GameRanger), i just like to hunt some terrorists with a friend. Mike
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From: Mike Stonehill (mistone@winfirst.com)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-17 16:04:31 PST
I personally enjoy Star Trek Elite forces. It is quite easy to play and a lot of mods available. I have met mostly nice people on the servers. I also am limited to this game by my limited cpu power. I have RTCW but is unplayable on my cpu. However my brother loves it but it does have a higher learnig curve. Enjoy -- Mike Stonehill
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From: ted (someone@somewhere.com)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-19 00:19:35 PST
Mike Whooley wrote:
> Having had my fair share of abuse already ("Why haven't you [OBSCURE
> OPTION X] turned on??? This server sux. U Suk!" or "Why the f*ck
> didn't u protect the [APPARENTLY VALUABLE WIDGET Y]? Why did you not
> do that??" etc..), I'd like to get started again without having to
> endure earfuls of the same.
I've found a simple way to avoid this kind of abuse/inaneness...I join MP games but use a foreign (read: non-english) sounding name like "Amigo de Diablo". When other players start hurling bile and invective my way, I just say "I do not speak english." That shuts them up really fast, and frustrates the hell out of them. On the off-chance they start trying to speak Spanish to you, claim you are from Brazil and only speak Portuguese. Portuguese is a little less common, especially here in the US. Or pick some other language that's not European or very common like Urdu or Farsi or something. It also helps if you actually know a little Portuguese (or whatever language you choose) and can construct a few simple sentences (and|or) keybinds. I can't tell you how many times this little tactic has saved me a lot of grief on public MP servers. And there's almost a perverse sense of satisfaction when you understand everything they are saying and know that THEY think you DON'T understand them; or when someone calls you a "p*ussy camper" and then realizes their words aren't "understood" by someone who "doesn't speak english." Try it. It works. ted
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From: Mike Whooley (spamless@whooley.utvinternet.com)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 11:27:34 PST
Hahaha! Why isn't THIS tip on macosxhints.com!?! :) I guess I could really confuse them, and say I'm blind as a bat, would they mind typing their abuse in braille? Failing that, I'm fluent in Gaelic. Never thought it'd come in so useful though.. Slan leat, Mike.
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From: ted (someone@somewhere.com)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 19:44:41 PST
Really, you gotta try the "I don't speak english" thing. It works great. I don't know enough about Gaelic to know if it would work as well as Portuguese. Please let me know how it goes, I'd like to hear some of your "war stories". Or should I say "contos da guerra"? ; ) ted
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From: Paul Vader (pv+usenet@pobox.com)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-20 15:33:12 PST
All games have their cultures, and some servers have so much culture that it develops into a disease. In brief, avoid these servers. I can't say that I've run into a lot of what you describe in the quake III series of games. You will occasionally be massively abused if you camp out waiting for the quad, or seem to be doing nothing but going for the BFG, stuff like that. For the most part, those sort of things are well-founded, especially in a map that can have all the fun sucked out of it if such techniques are used (the last level in quake is a classic example - no fun at all with BFGs are abused. Fortunately, there's a big STOMP button that's easily shot at from anywhere on the map to deal with that). On the other hand, on the more strategy oriented games (such as Urban Terror, quake III's counterstrike type thing), you get a lot of clueless flaming for camping (it's called defending a position, dumbass!) even when it doesn't apply. If you're not getting kick votes called on you, don't sweat the abuse. There are those that will say stupid stuff in the chat window no matter what you do. *
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From: C Lund (christopher.lund@NOSPAMchello.no) Message 19 in thread
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Mac MP gaming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.action
Date: 2003-01-21 14:04:05 PST
In article <3e2d9aae.100592223@news.iol.ie>,
spamless@whooley.utvinternet.com (Mike Whooley) wrote:
>I've always thought this should be factored into the game design; if
>you could imagine a 'gas canister' weapon, that after a short delay
>would send up a cloud that would drain a player's energy would be an
>effective anti-camping weapon?
Actually, if you know where the camper is it's usually easy to pick them off. Use a rocket launcher or grenade or sniper rifle or just about anything that does a lot of damage in little time. Exit camper. IMO camping is a perfectly viable strategy. It might be annoying when somebody else does it, but it's more satisfying to blow the camper's derriere to kingdom come than whine about it. I rather enjoy picking off campers (and snipers) - even if they waste me half a dozen times before I succeed. >>On the other hand, on the more strategy oriented games (such as Urban
>>Terror, quake III's counterstrike type thing), you get a lot of clueless
>>flaming for camping (it's called defending a position, dumbass!)
Yeah. In a team-oriented game like RTCW you'll often find players "camping" (iow gaurding) the objective. I often do so myself. In fact, if nobody's guarding the objective you'll often hear your teammates screaming about the objective being unguarded. Something that often brings whines on RTCW are players carrying flamethrowers - which is a weapon I really enjoy on some maps.. ;) >Mike.
-- C Lund, Oslo http://www.notam02.no/~clund/
iMac Video
From: amol katkar (amolkatkar@hotmail.com)Subject: Replacing Graphic card
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video
Date: 2003-02-10 10:19:56 PST
Can anyone tell me if I can replace graphic card of my iMac G4 which is Geforce 2MX with Geforce 4MX(64MB) ? Thanx
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From: Pat Janes (cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg)
Subject: Re: Replacing Graphic card
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video
Date: 2003-02-10 11:00:01 PST
It's an iMac. You can't replace the graphics card in an iMac.
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Subject: Re: Replacing Graphic card
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video
Date: 2003-02-14 15:38:22 PST
Yeah about all you can do is expand the VRAM.
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From: Phil Lefebvre (p-lefebvre@GOnorthwestern.edu)
Subject: Re: Replacing Graphic card
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video
Date: 2003-02-11 18:23:01 PST
You can't. The graphics chip is soldered to the motherboard.
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Miscellaneous
Subject: Re: Joystick prevents computer from bootingFrom: Larry Fransson lfransson@uswest.net
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000 2:41
Message-id: <387DABEB.9ECBFE18@uswest.net>
Siamak Ansari wrote:
> I have a Gravis Blackhawk ADB joystick.
> When the joystick is connected the computer will not boot.
> At the startup I get a disk icon with a flashing question mark.
> When the joystick is disconnected the computer boots normally.
> I figure the joystick is busted, but why would it affect computer
> booting?
> What is the connection? Would a defective ADB device prevent
> the computer from booting? Why?
Cycle all of the buttons several times. If one of them is sticking closed, the computer won't boot. That should solve your problem.
I went through that one myself shortly after I bought my Gravis Firebird ADB joystick. Some of the buttons needed to be exercised for a while until they stopped sticking. I found the problem one day when the computer booted (apparently, nothing was stuck at the time) but things started sticking when I was using the joystick. Running the diagnostic software showed me that some of the buttons were sticking. It's well broken in now, so I haven't had a problem for quite a while.
Larry (lfransson*aol*com)
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From: Daniel Chiaramello
Subject: Re: Black and White on a graphite imac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Date: 2002-07-29 02:34:37 PST
Hello.
I played B&W on a Graphite G3-500MHz fluently on Classic (never tried on X).
I don't know what is expected with higher-config machines, but with mine I
saw no problem and did not feel frustrated not to have a better machine!
Only "problem" is that I had to set the virtual memory to 384 (256 built-in
was not enough), but playability is good.
Hope that helps,
Daniel.
PS: very strange game at the beginning, not easy to understand how it works.
But don't feel desperate, and DON'T USE THE VORTEX IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT
APPEARS!!! Put plenty of one-shot miracles inside, even if it costs time,
they will be useful for the next campaigns!
> De : Hone Melgren <honem@paradise.net.nz>
> Sociİtİ : TelstraClear
> Groupes : comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.games.misc
> Date : Mon, 29 Jul 2002 01:20:45 +1200
> Objet : Black and White on a graphite imac
>
> I'm currently thinking about buying Feral Interactive's conversion of
> the God Game "Black and White" from Lionhead Studios. Before I buy it
> though since i have to get it from a website that is basically on the
> other side of the world from i need to know a few things .
>
> Namely is there anyone here who has hardware similar to mine who has
> played it on their equipment ? I have a graphite 600 mhz g3 imac with
> 256mb ram and the Rage 128 Pro graphics card . I want to know - how fast
> does it run? Does it play fast enough in OS X or is it better to restart
> in classic ?
>
> I would like you to email me your replys to honem-at-paradise.net.nz (or
> post them here whichever is easiest ;)
>
> Go in peace ,
>
> Hone Melgren <honem@[remove]paradise.net.nz>
> _________________________________________________
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> starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace
> and brotherhood can never become a reality."
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