Mac FAQ Stack 3.62: Classic Macs


Mac Plus - strange behavior

Subject: Mac Plus - strange behavior
From: bmielec@ar.krakow.pl
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000 4:28
Message-id: <387DC4ED.DD8AA311@ar.krakow.pl>

Hi,

Last week I bought Mac Plus with 2,5 MB of RAM and external floppy drive. The COMOS battery was completely discharged and inserted into Mac in wrong direction. Because I couldn't find the 523 battery, I inserted to Mac 3 batteries used in clocks. It works. Where is the problem? So, before replacement of the battery and after it, my Mac is starting up in a very strange way: it's starting up, suddenly restarting and again starting up and this is repeating sometimes once, sometimes even 20 times. Sometimes it's starting correctly. This restarts happened in different moment of starting up: 1. Before desktop pattern appears 2. After desktop pattern appears, but before Mac icon appears 3. After Mac icon appears 4. Sometimes during work I don't know what's going on. Can You help me?

Greetings from Poland: Boguslaw
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Subject: Re: Mac Plus - strange behavior
From: george@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu ( George Jefferson )
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000 8:17
Message-id: <85ktr1$1ut$1@netnews.upenn.edu>

:Does low power supply output happen to Mac Plus
:often? Does Plus have weak power supply?

yes, and it likely wasn't checked/adjusted to compensate for
your memory upgrade. If memory serves the voltage adjustment
and the point to stick your meter are very clearly marked once
you open the case.

If you are going to open it up it would be silly to not bump
the memory to full 4Mb while you are at it.

The SE and everything newer are self adjusting by the way.

Image Too Big

From: noamraph@my-deja.com (Noam Raphael)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Image on screen is too large, so I see only the middle
Date: 21 Jun 2001 09:05:09 -0700
Message-id: <c300f860.0106210805.5953f22c@posting.google.com>

Hello! I got an old Macintosh SE, and it has a problem with its screen. The screen, instead of looking like this:
/----------\
| |
| HELLO |
| |
\----------/
looks like this
/----------\
|| /- | | |
|| |- | | |
|| \- \- \-|
\----------/
So I can't see all of the image.

Do you think there is a solution?

And, another thing - There is a diskette in the drive, and I can't get it out. Do you have an idea how to pull it off?

Thank you, Noam Raphael
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Subject: Re: Image on screen is too large, so I see only the middle
From: sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Message-id: <210620010936055259%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:36:17 GMT

cmd-shift-1 should eject the floppy from the drive. If that doesn't work, there is (or should be) a small hole to the right or bottom-right of the drive slot -- stick a straightened paper clip in there to push the small button to manually eject the disk.

On the monitor problem, I really don't know what to tell you. It's quite possible that there is something wrong with the tube.

--
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Spenser
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Subject: Re: Image on screen is too large, so I see only the middle
From: sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Message-id: <210620011037333520%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:37:46 GMT

In article <3B322826.A23303DB@mediaone.net>, Big Daddy <albertson2010@mediaone.net> wrote:

> Aren't their vertical and horizontal adjusts on the monitor? You could use
> them to shrink the screen down to the right size.

The SE doesn't have a separate monitor with controls. It is the original Mac form factor, with a 9", B&W, 512x384 screen and either two internal floppies or a floppy and a (20MB) hard disk. I've taken quite a few of them apart (generally to install additional RAM) and they are a pain to deal with. There are no knobs, dials, or otherwise obvious controls on the logic board to control the monitor's image.

If you like to live dangerously, you could get a Torx wrench and case cracker to open it up and try to check the wiring, but I have seen people get a very bad shock that way.

--
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Spenser
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From: Brian Paul Ehni <behni@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Image on screen is too large, so I see only the middle
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:09:11 -0500
Message-id: <B757A277.3345%behni@home.com>

> If you like to live dangerously, you could get a Torx wrench and case
> cracker to open it up and try to check the wiring, but I have seen
> people get a very bad shock that way.

LOL!!!

Sounds like you've got "CloseView" active. It's a control panel that allows people with very poor eyesight to see what's on the screen. You should be able to scroll around the screen using the mouse (assuming it's booted to the desktop). Click on the Apple, scroll down to Control Panel, and look for CloseView) Turn it off.

Brian

Home Server

From: Thelonious Pepper <luvnpeas@my-deja.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Claiming a use for old Mac?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:03:30 -0700
Message-id: <luvnpeas-62D847.11033022062001@news.efn.org>

In article <teryt-2206011040170001@ip82.cleveland7.oh.pub-ip.psi.net>, teryt@earthlink.net (Teryaki) wrote:

> It could make a very good home server. Might need a larger HD, but
> otherwise would fill the role quite nicely.
>
> Tery

I always see people say this (especially re the SE/30) but I never know what they mean. What is a "home server"?
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From: Tom Dowdy <dowdy@apple.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Claiming a use for old Mac?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:22:31 -0700
Message-id: <dowdy-E73D8D.11223122062001@news.apple.com>

I have an older machine that I use for this, I run on it:
- File Sharing (to let me share files between my other Mac, and to have a central place for SW that I might want to load on them)

- Web Server (to let me get to some local web pages that I use for control)

- Router/Firewall (instead of an external HW box)

- Backup disks (I mount the disks and retrospect to them from my other machines)

This sort of thing probably only really makes sense if you've got two or more other Macs in the house and/or portables coming in/out of the mix. This happens to be the case for me, especially my work portable coming home.

-- Tom
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From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.usereplyto.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Claiming a use for old Mac?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:05:10 +0200
Message-id: <md80h9.nd.ln@moritz> Reply-To: uzs106@uni-bonn.de

Tom Dowdy <dowdy@apple.com> wrote:
> - Web Server (to let me get to some local web pages that I use for
> control)

Thats where the fun begins.

H.
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From: Radha Venkat <radha@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Claiming a use for old Mac?
Date: 23 Jun 2001 16:08:42 GMT
Message-id: <9h2eua$33s$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu>

Home server: a machine with two ethernet cards, one connected to the Outside World (via cable modem, dsl or dialup), the other connected to one or more machines which then split the connectivity and disk space on the server.

We have a 486DX4 133Mhz machine acting as a server (50GB disk space for mp3s, etc.) connected to our cable modem. The other network card connects to a 4-port hub to which my husband's Athlon and my G4 are connected... This configuration also allows us a little more security since the server acts as a firewall. The 486 is very happy running Linux, and it's a great second life for the machine.

- Radha

-- Radha A. Venkat radha (at) prozac dot cwru dot edu
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